Worker and Parasite

In Defense of Civilization by Michael RJ Bonner

Episode Summary

In this episode we discuss discuss In Defense of Civilization: How Our Past Can Renew Our Present by Michael RJ Bonner.

Episode Notes

In this episode, hosts Jerry and Stably delve into Michael R.J. Bonner’s book In Defense of Civilization: How Our Past Can Renew Our Present, a thought-provoking exploration of history’s lessons and their relevance to contemporary challenges. Stably, who selected the book, introduces Bonner as a Canadian scholar specializing in ancient and medieval Persia, Iran, and the Near East. Known for his academic rigor and right-of-center perspective, Bonner’s work reflects a deep concern for the state of modern civilization.

The conversation begins with an overview of Bonner’s thesis, which argues for the enduring value of historical knowledge in addressing the cultural and moral crises of the present. Bonner critiques what he sees as a widespread erosion of civilizational principles, suggesting that society has lost its connection to the virtues and institutions that underpinned past successes. Jerry and Stably unpack these ideas, examining how Bonner’s historical focus on ancient and classical cultures informs his critique of modernity.

A central theme of the discussion is the book’s emphasis on the importance of preserving and revitalizing cultural heritage. Bonner advocates for a return to foundational principles, drawing on examples from ancient Persia and other civilizations to illustrate how historical continuity can provide a framework for renewal. The hosts discuss how this perspective challenges the contemporary tendency toward cultural relativism, highlighting Bonner’s call for a more robust defense of universal values.

Jerry and Stably also explore Bonner’s critique of modern education and intellectual life, which he argues have become disconnected from their historical roots. They reflect on the implications of this disconnection for political and social stability, considering how the neglect of classical learning and moral philosophy might contribute to the fragmentation of contemporary society. Stably points out that Bonner’s insights resonate beyond academia, offering practical lessons for policymakers, educators, and cultural leaders.

Throughout the episode, the hosts balance their analysis of Bonner’s arguments with critical reflections. They discuss whether his focus on history’s successes adequately addresses the complexities of modern pluralistic societies. Jerry raises questions about how Bonner’s framework might be adapted to account for technological and demographic changes, while Stably defends the book’s emphasis on moral and cultural foundations as a necessary starting point for reform.

The episode concludes with a thoughtful discussion on the role of individual agency in civilizational renewal. Drawing on Bonner’s work, Jerry and Stably emphasize the importance of cultivating a sense of responsibility and engagement with the past, suggesting that history offers not only warnings but also inspiration for navigating the challenges of the present. They commend In Defense of Civilization for its intellectual depth and its timely call to action, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own role in shaping the future of society.